The Computer Virus Pop-Up
Practice what to do when a loud pop-up says your computer is locked: the phone number, the friendly technician, the fake scan and the gift cards.
Scam simulator · Phone calls
Three different callers tell one story: hackers are after your savings, and you must move them somewhere safe. Practice what to do at each step, and see why the FBI calls this the “Phantom Hacker” scam.
Why it matters: In the first half of 2023, the FBI received 19,000 complaints about tech support scams, which is how this scam begins, with losses of over $542 million. Almost half the victims were over 60, and they lost two-thirds of the money. (FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center, September 2023)
You’re retired and careful with money. This morning a warning popped up on your computer, and you called the number on it. A friendly technician has connected to your computer and says he’s removed a virus.
Below, each step shows what you'd see, the choices people make, and why each one is safe or risky. The summary at the end tells you what to look for and what to do.
You'll see each message or call as it would really look. Choose what you'd do, and you'll find out why. Nothing here is real: no messages are sent and nothing you choose leaves your device.
The technician sounds thorough and kind. Then he asks you to do something new.
Call in progress
Caller ID: (866) 555-0122
What do you do?
Why would a computer technician need to see how much money you have?
Log in and open each account so he can check. Looking for strange charges sounds sensible.
Risky choice (your choice)
While you show him each account, he’s noting which one holds the most money. That tells the gang how much to aim for. Because he controls your computer, he may also capture your login details.
Say I’ll check my accounts myself later, but let him finish fixing the computer.
Better, but not the safest (your choice)
Keeping your banking private is good. But he still controls your computer, so he may see you log in later, or leave something behind that watches what you do. It’s safer to disconnect him now.
Refuse, hang up and turn off the internet. Then call my bank myself, on the number on my card.
Safe choice (your choice)
That’s exactly right. Never do any banking while someone else is connected to your computer. Your bank can check your accounts safely, and a trusted local repair shop can remove whatever the “technician” installed.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
This is phase one of what the FBI calls the Phantom Hacker scam. The “check for charges” is really a look at which of your accounts holds the most. The FBI’s advice is blunt: “Do not conduct banking activity while providing remote access to your computer.”
Suppose you stayed on the line. The technician goes quiet for a moment, then sounds worried.
Call in progress
Caller ID: (866) 555-0122
What do you do?
Do computer technicians really talk to your bank for you?
Thank him and wait by the phone for the bank to call.
Risky choice (your choice)
The next caller is part of the same gang. Because the technician told you to expect the call, it will feel like proof when it comes.
Hang up and call my bank myself, on the number on the back of my card.
Safe choice (your choice)
Exactly right. A call you make yourself, to a number you already trust, is the only one you can be sure of. Your real bank can check whether anything is wrong, and put extra protection on your accounts.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
Tech support companies don’t contact your bank for you, and banks don’t take instructions from them. Setting up the next call in advance is how this scam builds trust: when the “bank” rings, it seems to confirm everything. The FBI says victims are told “their computer and financial accounts have been accessed by a foreign hacker.”
Half an hour later, the phone rings. The caller ID shows your bank’s name.
Incoming call
Caller ID: Your Bank
What do you do?
Can caller ID be faked? Would your bank ask you to keep secrets from its own staff?
Go along with it. It’s my bank’s name on the screen, and she knows what the technician said.
Risky choice (your choice)
Caller ID can be faked to show any name or number, and she knows what the technician said because they work together. Once you agree, she’ll coach you on exactly what to do and say.
Ask her some security questions first, to prove she’s really from my bank.
Better, but not the safest (your choice)
She may well pass. Gangs like this often have personal details stolen in data breaches, such as your address, date of birth and account numbers. Only a call you make yourself proves who you’re talking to.
Hang up. My bank would never tell me to move money to keep it safe, or to keep secrets from the branch. I’ll call the number on my card.
Safe choice (your choice)
That’s the golden rule. Wait a few minutes or use a different phone, then call the number on your card. No real bank, police force or government agency will ask you to move money to protect it.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
This is phase two. The FBI says victims are told to move their money to a “safe” account, “such as an account with the Federal Reserve or another US Government agency,” and not to tell anyone the real reason. But the Federal Reserve itself says: “Individuals cannot, by law, have accounts at the Federal Reserve.” In the UK and Australia, the same trick is known as the “safe account” scam, and Australia’s Commonwealth Bank says it will never ask you to “move money to a ‘safe account’.”
Many people do go to the branch, as the caller asked. She has told you to keep your phone on, in your pocket, so she can “help”.
At your bank branch. You ask to send $86,000 from your savings to the account number the caller gave you. The teller looks up from the form.
“That’s a lot of money to send in one go. Can I ask what it’s for? Has anyone asked you to move it?”
What do you tell the teller?
Who is the teller really working for?
Say it’s for a new roof, like the caller told me. She said someone at the branch might be involved.
Risky choice (your choice)
The cover story is there to stop the one person who could save your money. The “crooked employee” doesn’t exist. Once the money is sent, it’s very hard to get back, because you authorized the payment yourself.
Tell the teller everything: the pop-up, the technician, the “fraud team” and the Federal Reserve account.
Safe choice (your choice)
That’s the best thing you can do. The teller can check with the bank’s real fraud team, stop the payment and help you protect your accounts. The only people who wanted secrecy were the scammers.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
The “insider” story is there so you’ll ignore the bank staff who are best placed to spot the scam. The FBI says scammers tell victims not to tell anyone the real reason they are moving their money. As a Better Business Bureau spokesman told a Kansas TV station: “There is really no scenario in which it would be advantageous for you to move your money into an account that has less security and less protection.”
Suppose the money was sent. The next day, a third person calls. He says he’s a federal agent, that your money still isn’t safe, and that he’s emailing you a letter.
Federal Asset Protection Office
Asset Protection Order, Case No. AP-447190
Dear Account Holder,
This office confirms that funds held in your name remain at risk from an ongoing foreign cyber intrusion. Your protected funds will be held in a secure alias account with the Federal Reserve until the investigation is complete.
To protect your remaining retirement savings, you are directed to convert them to gold bullion, which cannot be accessed electronically. An authorized courier will collect the gold from your home.
This matter is strictly confidential. Telling bank staff or family members may compromise the investigation.
Special Agent M. Ellis Asset Protection Division
The letter looks official. What do you do?
How hard is it to make a letter look official on a home computer?
Believe it. It has a case number, an agent’s name and very official language.
Risky choice (your choice)
Anyone can make a letter look official. The FBI warns that this scam uses email or letters on “what appears to be official US Government letterhead” to make the story believable. A real agency would never tell you to buy gold or hand anything to a courier.
Call the agent back on the number he gave me, to check he’s real.
Risky choice (your choice)
That number goes straight back to the scammers, who will happily confirm everything. To check any agency, find its number yourself on its official website, never from a letter or a caller.
Stop and tell my family and my bank. No government office holds people’s savings or asks them to buy gold.
Safe choice (your choice)
Exactly right. Individuals can’t have accounts at the Federal Reserve, and the FBI says the government and real businesses will never ask you to buy gold. Telling your family breaks the secrecy the whole scam depends on.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
This is phase three: a fake government official. The FBI says these scammers claim your money is still “unsafe” and must be moved to a new “alias” account for protection, and they send official-looking letters to back it up. Some tell victims to cash out retirement savings and buy gold, which a courier then collects.
Suppose you did cash in your retirement savings and buy gold, as the letter said. The agent calls with final instructions.
Incoming call
Caller ID: (202) 555-0163
What do you do?
What does a passcode really prove about the courier?
Wait for the courier and hand over the gold once he reads the right passcode.
Risky choice (your choice)
The passcode only proves that the courier works with the caller. The gold is driven away and is rarely seen again. Some people are then told that even more needs protecting.
Don’t open the door. Call 911, tell the police a courier is coming to collect gold for a scammer, then call my bank.
Safe choice (your choice)
That’s the right call. Police would much rather hear from you before the courier arrives than after. Then tell your bank everything, so it can protect whatever is left.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
The FBI’s annual report counted $311.8 million lost to gold courier scams in 2025 alone, and its Boston office found that about 98% of courier-scam victims were over 60. The FBI says scammers give victims a “code,” “password,” or “serial number” to identify the courier. It is clear: “The U.S. government and legitimate businesses will never ask you to purchase gold or other precious metals.”
A few days later the agent calls again. And a few weeks after that, a different caller offers to help.
Incoming call
Caller ID: (202) 555-0163
What do you do?
Would a real investigator charge you to get your own money back?
Pay the recovery fee. $2,500 is worth it to get my savings back.
Risky choice (your choice)
This is a recovery scam, often run by the same criminals or by people who bought their list of victims. The FBI’s complaint center says it “will never ask for payment to recover lost funds.” Paying only adds to the loss.
Hang up on both. Report everything to the FBI at ic3.gov and to my local police, and ask my bank for help.
Safe choice (your choice)
That’s the way to real help. Reporting is free, and the details you give can help investigators. Your bank can try to recall any wires, and the National Elder Fraud Hotline can guide you through the next steps.
Red flags at this step
What's really going on
Once a gang knows someone will pay, it keeps coming back. In one Kansas case, reported alongside an FBI warning about this scam, a man’s phone records showed more than 17,000 minutes connected to the scammers over several weeks. The FBI’s complaint center, IC3, says it will never contact people directly by phone or email, and never charges to recover money.
The technician, the bank’s “fraud team” and the federal agent were all part of one gang, and there was no hacker. Each caller “confirmed” what the last one said, so the story felt real, and the secrecy kept away the bank staff and family who would have spotted it. The “safe” account, the gold and the courier all led to the criminals. At every step, hanging up and calling your bank on the number on your card would have stopped it.
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Summary · keep this
Remember: No real bank, government agency or tech company will ever ask you to move money to keep it safe, buy gold, or keep secrets from your bank. Hang up and call your bank on the number on your card.
Don't be embarrassed. These scams are run by professionals, and acting fast gives you the best chance of stopping the damage.
Phone numbers and web addresses were checked on 28 September 2026. They can change; if one doesn't work, search for the organization's official website, and please let us know.
The people, numbers, companies and web addresses shown in this simulator are made up. The way the scam works is taken from real cases reported by police, regulators and consumer groups.
Practice what to do when a loud pop-up says your computer is locked: the phone number, the friendly technician, the fake scan and the gift cards.
Practice spotting a fake bank fraud alert: the "did you make this purchase?" text, the faked caller ID, the code, the "safe account" and the courier.
Practice spotting a recovery scam: the firm that knows your loss, the fake federal agent, the upfront fee and the "recovered" money you can never withdraw.
Prefer to read? The "Safe Account" Scam: Why Your Bank Will Never Ask You to Move Money to Keep It Safe

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